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Post by AREZ God of War on Aug 15, 2009 18:30:42 GMT -5
This is open for discussion, but after playing this game extenseively and having done it all, I've decided to make a "rough" tier list which I WOULD LIKE to be debated by all who have achieved high-level play in this game:
God-Tier (banned):
Blaze/Moloch/KAK Onaga Goro Kintaro -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Top-Tier:
Sareena Scorpion Dairou Drahmin Sub-Zero Noob
High-tier:
Mavado Tanya Kung Lao Smoke Quan Chi Shinnok Kabal Mokap Liu Kang Taven Raiden Bo Rai 'Cho Johnny Cage Darrius Shao Kahn
High-Mid Tier:
Nightwolf Kira Hsu-Hao Sonya Kenshi Reptile Motaro Sheeva Ashrah Hotaru Meat Jax Baraka Chameleon Mileena Kitana Sindel Rain Ermac
Low-Mid tier:
Daegon Havik Shang Tsung Fujin Nitara Li Mei Jade Kobra Stryker Jarek Sektor
Low Tier:
Kano Reiko Kai Shujinko Cyrax Frost
Ok, here I got an idea...when an individual posts in the tier list threads, state your opinion, then list PAIRS of characters who are misplaced on the list in your opinion. We will then try to locate the two best players for those characters considering they are at similar skill levels, and judge our place-ranking in accordance to the result of those matches in a series to 10 wins. NO CHARACTER CHANGE at all....I believe it is essential for this excercise that the mind be one-tracked and only concerned with exploiting a SINGLE character. After the series, if both people are equally skilled with BOTH characters, we will have a switch of characters, then another series to 10, with the individuals USING the character they just DEFENDED against for the previous series.
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Post by B W1zZ on Aug 16, 2009 16:51:20 GMT -5
IMO: Dairou = High Tier Shinnok/Raiden/Cage should be dropped to high-mid
I dont know how to debate this...seeing as low tiers can destroy if played right, but the list seems right for the most part.
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Post by AREZ God of War on Aug 16, 2009 17:10:37 GMT -5
Well, i mean like you'd base ur decisions according to who's moves OWN each others' moves, damage readout + damage readout POTENTIAL (set-ups/50/50 mix), defense, range, speed, etc..
For instance Shinnok rapes with more unbreakable combos and free Summoned Fiends, while his punishing ability is high , so are his mix-ups and he's very unpredictable, b1 hits Mid, and launches, b4 is a breaker-waster, like Kano's Tough Boss and Cage's Overhead Axe-Kick. u can break it down to fragmants, ya know?
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Post by B W1zZ on Aug 17, 2009 4:58:31 GMT -5
I think Liu Kang should be moved to High Tier if not top tier, he has good mixups, an easy/effective free throw, and solid anti-air like 1,1 nunchaku and 1134CS if timed right. You can free throw after the 3 kick connects so that makes him even more deadly. Most of his 2-3 hit combos have good recovery time so this adds alot to his mixup game and versatility. Another good mixup is to D+1, then follow up with another low, 2 hit combo leading into freethrow like 11 nunchaku, or F+2 for a damaging juggle if you anticipate them ducking.
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Post by AREZ God of War on Aug 17, 2009 12:15:20 GMT -5
well, I don't believe there's anyway he's Top tier, but if he was in the High-tier, where would you rank him?
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Post by B W1zZ on Aug 18, 2009 23:05:59 GMT -5
well, I don't believe there's anyway he's Top tier, but if he was in the High-tier, where would you rank him? I'd say above Shinnok
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Post by ChaosTheory on Sept 7, 2009 18:36:45 GMT -5
Banned
Moloch Blaze Onaga
Top Tier
Sareena Scorpion Dairou Drahmin Sub-Zero (bubble)
Hight Tier
Kung Lao Noob Quan Chi Hotaru Tanya Mokap (bubble)
High-Mid Tier
Raiden Shinnok Bo’Rai Cho Mavado Smoke Liu Kang Kabal Nitara Sheeva (bubble)
Low-Mid Tier
Darrius Jarek Meat Kenshi Hsu Hao Kira Shao Kahn Nightwolf Li Mei Johnny Cage Jade Chameleon Mileena Kitana Sonya Ashrah Taven Daegon Motaro Stryker Jax Sektor Cyrax(bubble)
Low Tier
Reptile Ermac Baraka Rain Kano Reiko Goro Kintaro Fujin Kobra Shujinko Sindel
Bottom Tier
Frost Shang Tsung Kai
I think I left one character out. A low-tier. But it's a pain in the ass to figure out who.
This is very rough just from looking at an image of the roster. I didn't put them in order, just in classes. Surely debatable.
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Post by AREZ God of War on Sept 8, 2009 7:17:20 GMT -5
Goro, Kintaro (and KAK) are all banned, right?....they cannot be thrown or juggled (usually) and they are indeed damaging....why are they placed so low?
ALSO, see post #1, as it has been modified.
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Post by ChaosTheory on Sept 8, 2009 12:09:47 GMT -5
I don't know if Goro and Kintaro should be banned. They can't be thrown or juggled normally; but they're slow as shit and not very strong characters in my opinion.
I wouldn't care either way.
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Post by Jago on Nov 28, 2009 12:31:39 GMT -5
I don't think Cyrax should be that low he should be higher....
Kobra should be higher, he has a lot of nice low attacks including his fireball, and his mids are good if you know when to use them...
Goro and Kintaro should not be god-tier/banned tier yes they are bosses, but even though they can't be thrown, fireballs can still hit them, I think Sub-Zero can still freeze them....etc....and their moves aren't all too powerful....the reg chars can still kick their asses so I think it's good to allow Goro and Kintaro be used because they are bosses but actually balanced out unlike Blaze/Moloch...but a good Goro and Kintaro still has potential...just saying they're prob more like mid/high-mid tier level
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Post by REO on Dec 15, 2009 6:48:35 GMT -5
My opinion:
Top Tier
Sareena Dairou Scorpion Sub-Zero Drahmin
Hight Tier
Kung Lao Noob Quan Chi Hotaru Tanya Kabal Mokap
High-Mid Tier
Raiden Shinnok Bo’Rai Cho Mavado Smoke Liu Kang Kira Mileena Nitara Sheeva
Low-Mid Tier
Darrius Jarek Meat Kenshi Hsu Hao Shao Kahn Nightwolf Li Mei Johnny Cage Jade Chameleon Kitana Sonya Ashrah Taven Daegon Motaro Stryker Jax Sektor Cyrax Reptile Reiko
Low Tier
Ermac Baraka Rain Kano Goro Kintaro Fujin Kobra Shujinko Sindel
Bottom Tier
Frost Shang Tsung Kai
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